Heart to Heart - Creating Safe Spaces for Mother-Daughter Vulnerability

In this heartfelt episode, I sit down with mother-daughter duo Tes and Holly, who turned their own relationship challenges into a beautiful mission: creating Heart to Heart gatherings for other mother-daughter pairs. From Holly's well-meaning but painful "toxic positivity" during Tes's egg freezing journey to learning how to sit with sadness instead of immediately cheering each other up, these two share how vulnerability became their unlock to deeper connection. They reveal how the pressure to be "practically perfect in every way" (their Mary Poppins reference) prevented space for the full spectrum of emotions. Through their Heart to Heart workshops, they help other mothers and daughters navigate common themes like boundaries and the fear of being a burden, while teaching participants to "listen generously and share courageously." This conversation beautifully illustrates how relationships can evolve from cheerleader mode to authentic presence.

With this episode you'll be able to:

• Recognize how "toxic positivity" can prevent authentic emotional connection
• Understand the difference between intent and impact in difficult conversations
• Learn to ask "Do you want to be helped, heard, or hugged?" before responding
• Navigate the natural evolution of mother-daughter relationships across life stages
• Create space for the full spectrum of emotions rather than just the bright ones
• Practice sitting with sadness instead of immediately trying to fix or cheer up
• Use journaling and sharing techniques to deepen vulnerable conversations

Don't forget that vulnerability is the unlock to deeper connection - sometimes the bravest thing you can do is share what's really on your mind, even when it feels scary!

Connect with Brittney:

• Instagram: @theBrittneyScott
• Website: www.brittneymscott.com
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Mentioned resources:

• Heart-to-Heart Website for mother-daughter pairs
• NY Times article about being Helped, Heard, or Hugged 
• Books mentioned:
• Traveling with Pomegranates
• Nonviolent Communication (framework of sharing observations → feelings →  needs → requests
• Inside Out Movie 1 & 2 for understanding emotions

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Keyword tags:

mother daughter relationships, toxic positivity, vulnerability, Heart to Heart gatherings, intent vs impact, emotional safety, boundaries, burden, Tess and Holly, authentic connection, Brittney Scott, safe spaces, mother daughter workshops, relationship evolution

Tes and Holly:

In 2010, Tes Cohen gave her mom, Holly, Traveling with Pomegranates, a mother-daughter memoir that explored the power of opening up during tough times. Inspired, Tes inscribed, "Consider this ‘research’ for the amazing memoir we’ll write one day." Thirteen years later, after hearing a colleague’s regret about not starting a project with her own mother before her passing, Tes texted Holly: “Now’s the time.” Together, they created “Heart to-Heart Gatherings,” offering a safe and brave space for mother/daughter pairs to share their challenges and commit to deepening their relationship. 

Outside of Heart-to-Heart, Tes leads a consulting practice, Gather Better, and Holly is a hearing health advocate who co-produced a documentary about hearing loss called We Hear You. They believe that by sharing their story, they will encourage mothers and daughters to foster deeper connections by embracing vulnerability. Both have many stories to tell.